#Bayonetta smash ultimate frame data professional#

Just in case, with skill floor I mean how good you have to be to play the character decently. but, Bat Within is actually much better in this game because of the dodge mechanics of all characters, it activates more often/reliably. The window of opportunity to activate it is still very minimal, and there's so much endlag of activating it that 9/10 times, it is used to stall out an enemy attack, especially since it no longer provides Bayo with intangibility and it still fails to cancel the animation of the enemy that was countered (so if Witch Time ends in the middle of an enemy attack, the attack will still hit you when Witch time ends). I'd say a solid 90% of her moves are borrowed from her original home games, and they do have startup animations, but I think they just don't work in her favor when in the Smash games.ДЄs for Witch Time, despite the recent buffs to it (the actual 'countering' segment of the move lasts longer so activating the slow-down effect is easier to land and the duration of the slow-down effect regenerates faster), it is still arguably the worst counter in the game. I don't want to have to drop my fave for a top-tier/broken character just to win and feel good about myself. I work really hard to play as her, but it doesn't pay off. and I might just be bad, but my 4,600,000 GSP (which is 100,000 GSP away from Elite Smash) has plummeted to an insulting 3,700,000 GSP in just a day. It's physically hurts my heart and makes me sad that I can't win with the character I love a lot because everyone hates her. She now has a higher skill ceiling that only pros can reach and she still can't do what other characters can. I know it's only a game, and all I have to do to not get upset is to turn off the damn game and walk away, but it's just awful. Bayo haters treat us like we played exclusively to hurt them on a personal scale, when in reality, we were only playing as the character we loved.

#Bayonetta smash ultimate frame data professional#

They teabag us and it's worse in the professional Smash scene on Twitter. People online aren't generally malicious or rude, with a few who like to teabag because they're winning, but it's particularly awful against those who outright hate Bayonetta as a whole (the same people who never played/never will play her original two games). However, playing against others online is an entirely different story. The only times that's hard is when fighting a character with broken frame data. Playing as Bayo against the game's AI, so battles with CPU players or Spirit Battles in World of Light/on the Spirit Board, are easy most of the time. but with Bayonetta, every single attack she can use has insulting amounts of endlag that leave her vulnerable, even if they do connect. someone are slow and telegraphed for people to be aware of, most Smash Attacks have high endlag because those are powerful moves that should leave you open if they fail to connect.

Most of Ganondorf's slower attacks that can instantly K.O. I think that the stronger the attack you use is, the more drawbacks it needs to have in order to be balanced and fair.

Most characters have moves that start IMMEDIATELY (a few aforementioned ones are above) and cover a broken area. Her moves start VERY slowly and predictably, and they leave her vulnerable when ending.

*I'll hazard a guess and go as far as saying that Bayonetta has the most startup/endlag of any character in the entire Smash roster. Pair this with the fact that she has less priority than most other characters, all of whom have moves that happen immediately when the button is pressed and have better priority and broken hitboxes (Donkey Kong's Back-Air, Yoshi's Neutral-Air, Palutena's Neutral-Air, etc.), and you have a character who can no longer dominate the same way she did prior. She does walk and run faster, but her moves and their hitboxes are inconsistent and unreliable. *Bayo's frame data has always been bad to make up for her large Smash Attacks and phenomenal aerial/combo game, but with the onslaught of nerfs she received in this game as opposed to her incarnation in SSB4, they have worsened this. Games are supposed to be fun and fair for everyone playing, but with how AWFUL her frame data* and startup/endlag* is, it makes playing her against people online/in tournaments the equivalent to giving up a victory unless 1) you're CaptainZack, Geist, or another professional SSBU player, or 2) you're fighting an incompetent player and/or heavyweight characters such as Bowser, Donkey Kong, or Ridley. As the title says, playing as Bayo in SSBU is not fun, or at least, not from my experiences.